mju13
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Post by mju13 on Feb 1, 2016 17:05:04 GMT -5
While reading this week's readings, I started thinking about how interested primary discourse was and how it has shaped my upbringing. Coming from a Hispanic household and city (Miami), there are many mannerisms and approaches that seem intuitive and normal for me but foreign to others. Because of this I was wondering how primary and secondary discourses may have affected your upbringing as well as how do you think you would handle students with discourses different from yours?
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Post by taylorsauban on Feb 1, 2016 19:30:04 GMT -5
Coming from a very small suburban primarily white town outside of Tampa, to transitioning into FSU definitely made me fully understand how everyone comes from different backgrounds. I am a firm believer in you shouldn't blame your actions on your past; however, I have learned that there is so much more to that statement especially when dealing with education. So many students come from homes who do not agree that education is important. As we talked about in class, making the jump from discourse 1 that doesn't value education into discourse 2 (school) is much harder for students and I think it is something teachers need to keep in mind. In my own experience, one of the things that has majorly affected my upbringing was the Christian background I was raised in. This has always impacted many of my decisions and thoughts that I just assumed everyone else had too. I have had to learn that not everyone things like I do or values the same things that I considered normal.
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Post by kaylawebb on Feb 2, 2016 13:07:52 GMT -5
I agree with you, Taylor, that not all households agree that education is important and we have to be aware of that as teachers. My background was heavily influenced by my small town I grew up in. Before moving to South Florida from Virginia, I had never really been in classrooms where other kids didn't speak English. That was definitely an eye opener for me. Not everyone has the same background, culture, or morals and teachers need to be more aware of that sometimes and take it into consideration when teaching those students.
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Post by loganc on Feb 3, 2016 0:43:50 GMT -5
I love these ideas!! I also came from a suburban neighborhood that was quite (VERY) small where all of my friends had similar home lives as me and similar upbringings so coming to college it was interesting to me to be around so many people from South Florida, Jacksonville, etc. and how everyone is so different. I am a strong believer that how you were raised impacts how you will act the rest of your life. I also believe that you can have differing values and beliefs when you're an adult and out on your own from how you were raised. I know that I have changed since I moved out and don't have my parents around my all of the time because I have had a chance to make some of my own beliefs and experiences. In regards to my future students, my mom teaches at a title 1 school where I am from and she has many students who come from low income houses and/or broken homes and that has impacted her teaching, obviously because she cannot assign nightly blow posts when half of her students do not have computers available to them at home. I think through the English Ed program I have received a great amount of information on how to accommodate and be understanding that not everyone comes from the same type of household that I grew up in.
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Post by miko on Feb 8, 2016 6:17:18 GMT -5
I agree guys, like I stated before my primary discourse has evolved, I moved around quite a bit due to the fact that I was an Army Brat, although I like to refer to myself as a traveler. It seemed to me that I had to adjust to the different lifestyles that I became involved in. What I could say and what I couldn't say what I could do and what I couldn't do. It seemed to me that I had to behave and or become the culture I was surrounded by and they never seemed to stop or never seemed to fit the person that I was or at least wanted to be. I've always tried to see the positive in it, at least I have friends all over the world but in actuality I've just become a person who accepts the fact that nothing is permanent especially MY culture. For me primary and secondary disclosure seem to run together so close that I see them as being the same. Sure I speak and act different with my family than I do with outsiders but the two intertwine so often at times I cant seem to tell the difference.
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Post by alexandrajohnson on Feb 10, 2016 9:00:32 GMT -5
I love everyones ideas and I think it is really an important concept to remember in the classroom that as teachers, we will not be surrounded by students who view education the same way we do. Growing up, and still today as I am nearing the end of my college career, my mom has emphasized to me that education is the most important think that I can acquire. Sometimes I feel like I grew up in a bubble being so unaware of how different everyones' upbringing is. I think it is something I will have to keep in the back of my mind the rest of my life in order to understand where people, especially my students are coming from. I hope I can expose them early in their lives to how diverse we all are and how we can benefit from learning about one another.
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Post by jjtylr on Feb 10, 2016 13:46:04 GMT -5
This is sort of twofold for me:
I was born and raised in Des Moines, Iowa. A very, very long way from here both geographically and culturally. I have yet to experience a Florida high/middle school classroom atmosphere, but I can't imagine it would be all that different from where I grew up. Especially when compared to someone who grew up in a different socioeconomic or cultural setting, I don't know what kind of effects geographic location has on assimilating and acquiring discourse. Of course, I won't fully understand until I am actually teaching in classrooms and engaging with my fellow teachers and students. One of the biggest differences, I think, will be the level of diversity. Iowa is very homogeneous: white, middle class. Florida is much more diverse with students coming from a wide range of backgrounds both culturally and socioeconomically. So I think that aspect is where this whole "primary/secondary discourse" conflict will occur for me.
Additionally, I don't have a deep academic background in education. I focused on political science for most of my academic career and up until last year was pursuing my PhD in political science. I can still feel myself assimilating to the discourse of teaching: norms, methods and general knowledge about the profession. The author in Ch. 14 seems to indicate that most primary discourses are difficult to tap into because the elites try to prevent outsiders from acquiring the discourse, however, I have not felt that way about the teaching discourse. I have been very eager to learn more about teaching and how best to engage with students and my instructors and classmates have been very eager to teach me. There's some terminology and technical terms that get thrown around by experienced educators that I don't quite understand but I don't feel like there's anything preventing me from learning about those things.
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Post by sarahaubreyr on Feb 17, 2016 18:35:52 GMT -5
I completely agree with Taylor on this. Coming from a small town (Lakeland, FL) You don't realize how diverse the population can be. I came from a predominately white area and coming to FSU and seeing all the different backgrounds was extremely eye opening. I definitely think it is important to never let your past hold you back, but let it move you forward into achieving what you have set out to achieve. I have definitely learned to learn about everyone's background and to never judge them based off of where they come from or what they believe in.
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