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Post by kjgooden on Feb 10, 2016 15:47:53 GMT -5
Hello all, Please comment on your thoughts about the attachments to this post and also reply with examples from your own experience, texts, stories, etc. in words, pictures, video, etc. 20160210121932749.pdf2 (911.39 KB) 20160210121932749.pdf (911.39 KB)
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Post by kjgooden on Feb 10, 2016 15:48:25 GMT -5
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Post by brittanysinitch on Feb 10, 2016 16:53:23 GMT -5
I actually love this. Here we see a child, who is learning how to speak, write, and maybe even color for the very first few times. I remember as a child trying to write my own stories and attempt to color in the lines. We all know I never succeeded THAT young, but there I was still DOING literacy. I think it's so interesting that even if what we write, say, or do does not make sense to other people, it can still make sense to ourselves... And that to me is literacy. This drawings could be some form of another language, but if I had to predict I could see this being a young child's way of developing literacy skills and expressing their thoughts through writing symbols and coloring. Even though this might not be ones main idea of literacy, it still means something! If this is the case, then this makes me think about other people around me. Even today, no one will have the same spot on idea of literacy practices, but we can respect each other's ideas and opinions and grow from that. What do you think?
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Post by taylorsauban on Feb 10, 2016 17:16:35 GMT -5
I also love this, toddlers learning how to be humans are the ultimate example of mushfaking in a discourse they are trying to be a part of. They look up to their parents and siblings to learn how to do every day tasks by mimicking everything they do, such as reading and writing here in the pictures. Like Brittany said, the kid who wrote these papers could probably read the story they wrote no problem because it makes sense to them. But to an adult, they can pick out that this child is just trying to fit into the discourse. Like the Donald Trump example we talked about in class, I would make the connection that a child trying to write like their older role models would be a shibboleth since they aren't necessarily part of the discourse yet. (hopefully I used that word in the right context)
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Post by miko on Feb 10, 2016 17:17:07 GMT -5
I agree, I work in a childcare facility and when the children have block time, some of them use that time to imitate their parents by writing in the sign in book. No one ever actually taught them to write in the book but seeing their parents they picked up on this secondary disclosure. We can't understand what they've actually written but I think in their minds they signed in just as their parent have. I guess this is when primary and secondary disclosure meets as it was explained in our reading.
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Post by katelyn on Feb 10, 2016 17:17:13 GMT -5
This is loosely related to the images, but since we all grew up in the age of technology and digital literacy, I remember really wanting to be able to write down my words on a computer. I would sit at my dad's laptop and "type" on the keyboard--not really typing anything, because I couldn't read or write yet. I also remember scribbling in a notebook, writing letters together, but not forming any words or meaning. I like that even when kids can't correctly do something, they just pretend they can. They aren't discouraged by their inability, and eventually they learn to do whatever it is correctly.
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Post by jklee on Feb 10, 2016 17:27:27 GMT -5
I absolutely love this as well! This seems like a child developing their type of literacy practices. It reminds me of when I was a child. When I was in kindergarten, I drew a picture of myself jumping rope and wrote a very misspelled, grammatically incorrect phrase that my teacher translated for me. What I wrote was something like, "My nam is Jonnie Kate. I leki boks. I leki to jum rop." Most of the letters were backwards and misplaced, but I was practicing early literacy. Below my writing, my teacher wrote in correct English, "My name is Jonnie-Kate. I like books. I like to jump rope." My mom still has that drawing on a wall at my house. I was trying my best to write about myself and I knew what I wanted to convey, but I didn't convey it correctly, much like the author of these pictures. One of the images has some writing about chickens with pictures to go along with it. Much like that image, my sentences included a picture of me jumping rope. These were early attempts to practice a type of literacy and without these practices, I would not have been able to hone the skill.
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Post by rachelhinder on Feb 10, 2016 17:46:23 GMT -5
I think we have all been at this level of mushfaking is our discourse. My mom still has a card I made her when I was younger that has an *awful* drawing of my family along with "happe burthdae mommee i luv yu". Very similar to the photos shown, I tried my best to communicate words I had been before. I could speak them, but the spelling part got the best of me. However, over time I acquired the correct spelling for these words either through observation or spelling quizzes in elementary school. Also I remember in 2nd grade, my best friend was in 3rd grade. One day she was studying for a spelling test and one of the words was "motorcycle". At the time, I could not comprehend ever learning such a large word! However now, it seems like a pretty basic word.
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Post by miko on Feb 10, 2016 17:49:19 GMT -5
According to the reading "mushfake" is a term that means making do with something less when the real thing is not available, I'm not sure about anyone else but this is something that I've become accustomed to. I've been taught that either you work hard to get the real thing or you make due with what you have. So what I've chosen to do is prioritize what's important and what's not, if it isn't going to mean that it's the end of the world then make due with what you have. I wouldn't suggest that anyone try this with teaching unless it refers to supplies (just a little humor).
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Post by taylorbelleglaze on Feb 10, 2016 18:23:19 GMT -5
This concept is interesting to me because you are seeing the process of a child going through the steps of learning how to write using their prior knowledge of the alphabet and composing a complete sentence. When children are learning how to read and write, this can be an incredibly difficult process because it's completely foreign to them. Children learn parts of speech and writing in segments and it is a gradual process. When children are expected to write something they have learned, it may be different than what they are trying to actually say because they haven't completely processed everything into their long term memory. They will write regardless because they are expected to and they may believe that what they are writing is correct. This is the whole concept of mushfaking. This concept isn't only seen in children, but in adults as well. When we are unfamiliar with something or do not completely understand a certain task, we will try to mimic what others around us are doing so we can eventually learn how to do the thing or at least pretend we do. This idea is developed at a young age. In infants, babies will mimic what their mothers or fathers faces are doing because they believe it is appropriate or that is how they should be perceived as well even if they have not completely formed abstract thoughts yet. Mushfaking isn't necessarily a bad thing-- it is just a certain literacy practice that helps people learn how to do certain things. Everyone is unique in how they go about certain things, like writing and speaking, so it is not wrong to be different because we are learning from others. This is how literacy changes over time.
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Post by morgan on Feb 10, 2016 18:23:50 GMT -5
A mushfaking that I often observed and pulled myself in high school was in choir class. We were required to sing Silent Night in German and after the first three words, my best friend and I would slur our "German" words because we never had any idea what we were supposed to be singing. This could also be achieved by mouthing "watermelon" in an English song when you didn't know the words and/or notes. More than that, often when my friends and I would mushfake during choir it was with an attitude that insisted that we were too cool to know all the songs exactly how they were, when in real life, I actually was terribly jealous of the people who were in the higher choir but used mushfaking as a defense against them by acting as if they were too "nerdy" for me.
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Post by loganc on Feb 10, 2016 18:25:36 GMT -5
I love this and I completely agree with Brittany that this is a form of literacy. I have babysat many young children when they were just beginning to write and draw and it was so interesting to me when they would draw something that, to me, looked like a big mix up of shapes and letters, but to the child, this was a whole, elaborate story. When I first saw this, I tried to conform their drawing or story to standard English by correcting them so that it made sense to me and anyone else who might see it but then I realized that for now this is their form of expression and it is 100% okay! Even now, for TSL4081, I am working with a kindergartener who is practicing journaling and every week he is given a prompt such as "What season I like best" and I let him write the entire journal and don't answer any questions about how to spell certain words or correct him and just let him write. Then, I have HIM read it to me and I do not read it myself. After he reads and explains what he wrote to me I then read and of course there are words like "liek" and "seasun" but I want to get his understanding of his journal before I try to make sense of it myself.
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Post by SophinaA on Feb 10, 2016 19:11:22 GMT -5
I think that this is a great term to exist. I believe that this could occur any almost any situation. I've even seen people feign stupidity to prove a point. Even recently, members of the LGBTQ+ community have gone out of their way to be present to people who dislike them. By creating disruptions and acting out this is a form of physical mushfake. By being overly obnoxious with words and actions, it will make those who thought they were a problem before will wish they were behaving the way they were before.
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Post by keturahyoung on Feb 10, 2016 20:49:08 GMT -5
So when I first looked up the term "mushfake" some prison slang definition kept popping up from Urban Dictionary. I finally found a definition that made sense: Mushfake Discourse’ means partial acquisition coupled with meta-knowledge and strategies to ‘make do’. Although I'm not the biggest fan of small children, it is pretty cute when they're first learning how to write ad spell. This reminds me of an activity my kindergarten had us do. Once a week we would write something in our journals an draw a picture to go with it. I felt like I was an author writing an entire novel, but in reality it was only about 2-3 sentences. I had so much fun doing this as a little person! My teacher would read them every week and write the correct spelling or proper form of the words really small under our own writing. Now I see that she was evaluating our progress with the written English language.
Mushfake seems pretty great for little kids, but what if little kids aren't the only ones operating in this discourse? Hear me out for a second. Imagine if you haven't had the best educational experience and you struggle with reading and writing, you lost all motivation to try, so you try to avoid it. When you're finally forced to do these tasks, it looks similar to the mushfake of a toddler. Why because you're "making do" with the knowledge that you do have. See the problem? Is this a real thing or am I reaching?
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Post by wmm12d on Feb 11, 2016 9:16:13 GMT -5
Fake it till you make it.
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